Chevrolet holds the edge at Talladega
October 4, 2008
Ken Shrader started the domination of Chevrolet at Talladega in 1988.
But it has been the Chevys of Dale Earnhardt and then his race team that has held a lock on the longest oval on the NASCAR circuit. Twenty eight wins in the forty races since Shrader started the trend gives the Bowtie Brigade seventy percent of the wins since that July day in 1988.
Only eight Fords, one Pontiac and one Toyota have won in the same twenty years time span. Kyle Busch holds the lone Toyota victory from earlier this year. Only two of the Fords have come from a team that has cars in the Chase. Mark Martin owns the two wins for Roush-Fenway Racing. The most Ford wins com from Yates Racing cars that are not involved in the post-season. The remaining two came from the Blue Ovals fielded by Junior Johnson.
Those Ford numbers don’t bode well for the Roush-Fenway entries of Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards or Matt Kenseth.
The late Dale Earnhardt owns eight of the 28 wins, or 28 percent, but a full 100% of the wins from Richard Childress Racing . Rick Hendrick owned cars have won ten races mostly with Jeff Gordon behind the wheel.
No Chrysler product has seen victory lane since Dave Marcis did it in a Dodge in August of 1976.
When looking for a favorite at the unpredictable superspeedway, look no further that Chevy drivers, especially Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Both drivers are in desperate need of a win to get their Chse hopes back.
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Handicapping the Chase Drivers: Talladega Superspeedway
October 3, 2008
So last week wasn’t quite a bust for me, with my best bets - sure thing Greg Biffle, dark horse Jeff Gordon, and sleeper Clint Bowyer - finishing 3rd, 4th, and 12th, respectively. My lead picks - Tony Stewart at New Hampshire, and Biffle at both Dover and Kansas - have finished 8th, 1st, and respectively, scoring 502 points between them. In other words, if I was in the Chase, I’d be fourth right now, 73 points behind Jimmie Johnson in first.
Talladega, however, offers the biggest challenge for any race forecaster in the entire Chase. A driver can go from 3rd to 30th in half a lap, or the exact opposite. Everyone knows about the Big One, a 20-plus car wreck that more often than not eliminates one of the sport’s top drivers from contention, especially late in the race. In other words, this weekend is a crapshoot. Before picking anybody to win, have a look at the speed charts from every practice, go with a gut feeling, and wear your lucky underwear - you’ll need it. Just don’t drop a deuce and have to wash all the luck out of it.
Here’s what to expect from each of the 12 Chase drivers this week at Talladega:
1. Jimmie Johnson: Johnson’s got momentum on his side, the top cars in the garage, an average start of 8.2 (so you know he’s fast here), and only one start in which he hasn’t led a lap, when his engine blew up in fall 2002. He’s almost a lock - as much as any driver can be at Talladega. Any questions?
2. Carl Edwards: Come Chase time, Edwards does well at Talladega: the past three years, he’s finished 5th, 9th, and 14th in this race (although that 9th came in 2006, when he missed the 10-man cutoff). Despite two engine failures, Edwards has never retired from a race due to an accident. Given his recent momentum, with seven finishes of 3rd or better from Indianapolis to now, don’t expect Cousin Carl to slow down any on Sunday.
3. Greg Biffle: Biff’s never finished better than 13th at Talladega in 2005, even when he hasn‘t gotten caught up in wrecks. He’s led 19 laps at the track in his Cup career. And somehow he’s excited for this race. Biffle’s stated that he’s going to hang around Johnson and Edwards all race to minimize any potential losses in the standings, but expect him to try to break away and lead a few laps if it’ll help him in the points.
4. Jeff Burton: In 29 career starts at Talladega, Burton’s only crashed out twice - and one of those times was his track debut in 1994. His 10 top 10s at the track for his career rank tied for third of all Chase drivers, but he only has two top 5s at the track, in 2001 and 2006. Burton’s almost certain not to wreck, however, so he’s a reliable if not spectacular choice.
5. Kevin Harvick: Happy’s one of the few top-caliber drivers who can say he’s never had a day completely ruined by getting caught up in the Big One. As such, he has an average finish of 14.3 at Talladega in 15 starts. The only Chaser with more than five seasons’ experience to finish every race he’s started at the track, Harvick should bring the car home in one piece on Sunday, with a top 10 finish very plausible (7 in his career).
6. Jeff Gordon: Jeff won both races here last season. He’s in dire need of a win this year, but after only finishing 19th at ‘Dega in the series’ spring visit, he‘s not a shoo-in. In 31 starts, however, Gordon’s finished in the top 10 16 times (with six wins) and crashed out only three times. He’s due, and this is a track that Gordon’s found more success on than a lot of drivers, so it’s possible that Gordon can find victory lane this weekend.
7. Clint Bowyer: When Clint completes every lap at Talladega (his last 2 starts at the track, in last year’s Chase and earlier this year), his average finish is 10.0. When he doesn’t (his first 3 starts at the track), his average finish is 36.7. If he finishes the race, he’ll do just fine, but not much more than that.
8. Dale Earnhardt Jr.: From 2001 to 2004, Junebug’s worst finish at Talladega was 8th. Twice he finished 2nd. The other five times, he won. In the spring, he led 46 laps and finished 10th. Junior’s not a sure thing to win this weekend, though, as he hasn’t won here since 2004 and the team is using a backup car due to a nightmare practice. On the other hand, it should be noted that, as DEI were the kings of the restrictor plate in the early 2000s, so too Hendrick has been in the latter half of this decade.
9. Matt Kenseth: When Matt’s on at Talladega, he’s on (67 laps led with an average finish of 6.0 from 2005 to 2006). When he catches a bad break, however, he’s gone (5 finishes outside of the top 20, including his last two starts). An interesting note, however: Each time Matt’s finished inside the top 10 at Kansas, he’s also led laps and finished decently at Talladega. Matt finished 5th last weekend.
10. Denny Hamlin: Denny’s finished in the top 5 twice at Talladega, a 4th in fall 2007 and a 3rd earlier this year. In the three races before that, though, he finished 22nd, 21st, and 21st. Hamlin’s capable of running up front at Talladega, though, after leading at least one lap in all five of his starts. If Denny’s timing is on, we could see the No. 11 surprise a lot of folks by winding up in Victory Lane.
11. Tony Stewart: Smoke’s 13.9 average finish here is tops of all Chase contenders. He also led 61 laps here in the spring before an accident relegated him to 38th place. Tony lost a lot of momentum after finishing 40th at Kansas, but last year he rebounded from another poor Kansas run to finish 8th at ‘Dega. Keep in mind, Stewart’s only led 36 laps in the past 12 races, and didn’t have too much momentum to begin with. Don’t expect a surprise victory, but Stewart should be there in the end.
12. Kyle Busch: With career finishes of 41st, 33rd, 32nd, 11th, 37th, 36th, and 1st, it’s not hard to pick out the outlier in Busch’s ‘Dega stats. Forget the massive streak of bad luck the past few weeks; Busch is too accident prone here in the first place. Of course, I could be wrong, and he could break out this weekend and win (his only win here was this year), but all the signs point otherwise. Sorry, Kyle.
So who would I pick to win this weekend? Johnson, plain and simple. You can’t argue with momentum, horsepower, and flat-out talent. In the midst of a nine-race top 10 streak, Harvick also has the potential to put Richard Childress Racing in victory lane. As for a dark horse, look no further than the momentum-charged Biffle, who sounds legitimately excited for this race, despite his track record. Remember, he didn’t have too much going for him at Loudon, either.
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Gentlemen, Roll Your Dice
October 2, 2008

Right. So Charlie says to Steve about 5 weeks ago, “We need a sucker to write up all the non-Chaser options for the 2008 Chase for the Sprint Cup.” So Steve says, “Well, I owe Luke one, so let’s talk him into it. He’ll write anything, you know.”
So here we are. Suckered, er, convinced, into covering the 31 other possibilities for cracking the Top-10, and knocking Chasers into the lower points-per-position bracket.
Before we dig into what went down at Kansas, in terms of the Top-10 party, how about that finish? Sure, it wasn’t so hot until the last 50 or so laps, but from there on it was hammer down aggressiveness. All completed by a “Cole Trickle” style move for the win. Of course, that’s not the only time Cousin Carl has showed us an impression of Cole Trickle either. Anyone want to recall Michigan, and a little bit of screaming out of the pits?
On to the non-Chasers from Kansas.
Luke’s score from Kansas: 1 for 5. Let’s recap.
- Brian Vickers: 15th
- Mark Martin: 18th
- Beak: 19th
- Ryan Newman: 16th
- Elliott Sadler: 10th
At least we kept it in the top 20 this week.
It wasn’t all roses in the Top-10 however. It was only a 70% take for the Chasers.
Coming in with an 8th place showing was David Ragan, followed by A.J. Allmendinger in 9th, and the aforementioned Elliott Sadler closing out the Top-10.
If only Kasey Kahne had better studied Elliot’s setup, he wouldn’t have been 11 spots behind. Is it just me, or has the 9 team has been a bit behind the 8-ball since NASCAR reeled in the “crab walking” with the rear ends of the car? Maybe it’s just coincidence, but then again, maybe not.
So now we arrive at Talladega. Talk about a crapshoot. As we all know, anything can (and usually will) happen at Talladega. It’s the one track in the Chase that puts knots in Chasers stomachs, and boogeymen under their beds.
Here’s your three good options for ‘Dega, that not only have the chance of being in the Top-10 when the smoke clears, but also take an outside shot at the win:
Brian Vickers, David Ragan, and Kurt Busch.
OK, Vickers yet again. He’s performed pretty solid on the plate tracks, and his only win in the series came in this event in 2006.
David Ragan has surprisingly been a familiar face in the Top-10 for plate events as well this season, and the same goes for Kurt, despite an accident last July at Daytona.
When it comes to the plate tracks, just roll your dice. These tracks take more than stats into account, as one lone sneeze can kill a stat quicker than it takes to come out. That’s anywhere from 95 to 650 mph, according to Wikipedia, in case you were wondering.
That being the case, momentum on these types of tracks is important. Not just from recent weeks, but from recent plate races as well. And don’t let the qualifying results fool you. The chance of a Chaser hitting the pole is slim, as it’s an impound race and most teams in the Top-35 will be focusing solely on race runs. This is one place where you won’t hear teams talking about qualifying for track position, for once.
When the checkers fall, how will your dice roll have turned out? Will they be shaken up like the points could be?
Championship Changes Come in the Chase’s Round 4
October 1, 2008
Want to avoid big wrecks at Talladega Superspeedway? Run up front. If you can’t run up front, stay out of the pack as long as possible.
That’s the concensus of the opinions I’ve surveyed this week. On our INSIDE ARCA radio show Tuesday night I asked our ARCA Insider, Speed TV commentator and former Cup Series winner at Talladega, Phil Parsons how he would try to avoid the Big One. Run up front, Phil said.
Later I asked Patrick Donahue, crew chief for the Red Bull Toyota of Scott Speed and former member of the Jeff Gordon’s Rainbow Warriors, what advice he gives his “Dega drivers. Patrick said, run up front.
Nine time ARCA RE/MAX Series champion and ARCA-Talladega winner, Frank Kimmel said much the same. At Talladega, whenever possible, get to the front. Early. And stay there.
Six time Talladega Cup race winner Jeff Gordon agrees but did say that if you do get shuffled out of the lead, you have to look at the situation and decide if there are enough laps left for you to clear yourself of the pack and just ride around until the closing stages of the race before making your move. This isn’t Gordon’s preferred strategy, but it is the one he used last year to win the race.
It’s a Gordon thing
Jeff Gordon’s six wins is a pretty good resume at any track. The only driver with more at Talladega is the late Dale Earnhardt with ten. Jeff Gordon has the best Loop Driver Rating for ‘Dega and only one guy has a better Ave Driver Rating - taking the season-to-date Dr and averaging it with the track specific stat. And Gordon has run up front, leading a category best 301 laps (22.7 percent) in the last seven Talladega races. Jeffy has the third best Ave Running Position for ‘Dega and the fourth best for the 2008 season. Gordon is 113 points behind Jimmy Johnson. He knows that he needs wins. Jeff Gordon is the favorite this week.
Tony Stewart hasn’t done much to inspire confidence in him as a winner pick. Tony and the rest of the Joe Gibbs Racing trio have, for all intents, raced themselves out of the Sprint Cup championship picture. But Stewart’s pack leader stats are strong and his history at Talladega, though winless, has been good. His 94.4 ‘Dega Driver Rating trails only Gordon and Denny Hamlin. Smoke has the best Ave Running Postion in the Alabama Loop races.
Don’t forget the ex-champs
Kurt Busch runs up front too. His Ave Finish of 10.6 is tops for Talladega. Like Stewart, big Busch has great stats but no wins in the Cup Series at Talladega. Also like Smoke, Kurt’s 2008 season makes picking him anywhere to win, a stretch. It could happen. But you better get good odds to bet on it.
If there is a logical, stat based, alternative to Gordon as the pick to win this restrictor plate race, that pick would be Jimmy Johnson. You would not be wrong to pick J J this week - maybe any week. He has the best season-to-date Ave Running Position, the sixth best ‘Dega DR and the top DR average at 96.7. He also won the last race at Kansas. Johnson leads the points race and he’s been here before.
Carl Edwards, Kyle Busch and Greg Biffle haven’t been very good at Talladega, Even combing their 2008 DR stats with the Talladega Loop data doesn’t pardon all of their sins. All three have Ave DRs under 90. Biffle’s is a dismal 81.8 Lightning in a bottle? That would be an upset more special than anything Jimmy the Greek has cooked up.
The best bets for upset are Brian Vickers and Jamie McMurray. Jamie’s DR is fourth best. Vickers is fifth. Brian is on an upswing. Jamie - not so much.
I’ll take Gordon with Brian Vickers getting the nod as best dark-horse pick to win.
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Welcome To The Talladega Jungle
September 29, 2008
Predicting Talladega is like buying a lottery ticket. Sometimes you win a buck, sometimes you win a little more – but most often you end up wasting money. Case in point the last 3 races at the track in 2005, 2006, and 2007. Back in 2005 Dale Jarrett came out of nowhere to steal the race, and Brian Vickers’ last lap “pass” that sent Jimmie Johnson and Dale Earnhardt Jr. spinning ruined a lot of days. Then we have the battle last season, in which Jeff Gordon made one of the gutsiest passes I’ve seen at a plate race to snag the win from Johnson with Tony Stewart right on his tail.
There is always a sort of feeling heading into the October Talladega race that you don’t feel in the spring. I’ve felt it for years, and the additions of the Chase have only heightened the anticipation, majesty, and… fear.
The winners:
2007 – Jeff Gordon
2006 – Brian Vickers
2005 – Dale Jarrett
2004 – Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Champs finish:
2007 – Jimmie Johnson – 2nd
2006 – Jimmie Johnson – 24th
2005 – Tony Stewart – 2nd
2004 – Kurt Busch – 5th
As has been the trend in the Chase, Johnson’s 2006 run has been the aberration in how to win the championship. In this case as you can see, throw out that year and the champ will finish in the top 5 at Talladega. This year, that seems to show that some combination of Johnson, Carl Edwards, or Greg Biffle battling for the win. Some smart money would also be on Gordon, Dale Jr., or Kevin Harvick, as the Chevy track record is particularly strong.
Talladega is good for a few surprises in the top 10. In recent years, drivers such as Tony Raines, Jeff Green, and Brendan Gaughan all recorded surprisingly good finishes here. One driver to look for is Mike Wallace in a fourth RCR car. Wallace is widely considered one of the best plate racers, and this car could be really good, or really bad. That’s half the fun of sleepers! For those that have taken a chance on my heavy sleepers, first of all, I apologize. This week I’m going to step out on that limb with David Gilliland. He has run well at plate races, and good be racing for a job next year, given that Paul Menard is headed to the Yates team.
In case you didn’t guess by the title of the column, the Talladega theme song is “Welcome To The Jungle” by Guns N’ Roses. Reportedly the long-awaited album Chinese Democracy will be out November 25. Maybe we can get that free Dr Pepper after all.
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The Biff May be a Stiff at Talladega
September 29, 2008
They say anything can happen - and anyone can win at Talladega Super Speedway. I’m not buyin’ it.
I know that ”Dega is supposed to be the “wild card”. That I CAN buy because somebody - maybe several somebodies - who are in Cup contention, or appear to be (there are a lot of “ors” in this conversation) will almost, for sure get caught up in an Alabama Big One and, by that fact, be able to blame their failure to win the 2008 Sprint Cup on something other than their own culpability.
I try to use useful statistics when writing these Chase posts. But try as I might, I couldn’t find a stat that pointed me, specifically towards those drivers who have most consistently participated in Talladega “Big Ones”. Almost makes one think of conspiracy theories - but I don’t subscribe.
I can tell you, based upon NASCAR’s Loop data for the last seven races run at Talladega; of the 2008 Chase contenders, Greg Biffle sucks. No offense meant Greg, but I’m guessing you’ve spent more than your share of time as a pinball than you would care to admit.
Now the Biff has been as good as anyone in the first three Chase races and the top Roush-Fenway Racing cars - Biffle, Carl Edwards and Matt Kenseth - are stout. But the best Loop rated Roushketeer at Talladega is Jamie McMurray for cryin’ out loud! McMurray’s Driver Rating is fourth best - 92.1 - compared to Biffle’s 68.0.
The only regular Cup series drivers with worse DR’s that Biffles’s are Casey Mears, David Gilliland, Robby Gordon, Dave Blaney and, surprisingly, Mark Martin.
Plate tracks are different animals. The temptation is to discount Greg’s Talladega stats as “big one syndrome” or something. He has been really good these first three Chase races. But his loop stats for those races were very strong too. Some drivers - and teams - do extremely well on the plate tracks. The Earnhardts, Richard Childress Racing and DEI have dominated in the past. Roush has not. Biffle is not the pick this week.
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The Chase Heads To The Big One
September 28, 2008
Talladega Superspeedway is the biggest and scariest track in the Chase.
This Alabama track holds the distinction of the fastest qualifying time in NASCAR history when Bill Elliott turned 212.8 miles per hour in 1987. Speed has always been a concern at the 2.66 mile tri-oval. It’s inaguaral race in 1969 was wrought with controversy as the drivers of the Professional Drivers Association, boycotted the race due to concerns over the tires holding together at the speeds the track produced. The PDA was a short lived drivers union headed by Richard Petty. The boycott saw second tier drivers running that first race and gave journeymnan driver, Richard Brickhouse his only win in NASCAR’s premier series.
In 1987 Bobby Allison experienced a tire failure while going through the tri-oval , which sent his car airborne. His car tore out a portion of the frontstretch catch fence, nearly entering the crowd. NASCAR imposed rule changes to slow the cars after the incident, with a 1988 rule requiring cars running there and at Daytona to begin use restrictor plates. The plates limit the amount of air and fuel entering the intake manifolds of the car, greatly reducing horsepower of the cars and therefore their speed.
The reduced power affects not only the cars maximum speed but also the reponsiveness of the throttle. The racing seen at Talladega today is extremely tight; often three or four abreast. This tight side by side racing with huge packs of cars are what makes “the big one” possible. The big accident is what makes Talladega so unique and unpredictable. Dega has been dubbed as a “wild card” race because of the swiftness and unmercilesness with wich the track and plate racing can change a drivers day, season or career.
Talladega sports the series steepest banking at thirty-three degrees and the most unusual start-finish line. The checkered flag waves just past the tri-oval area near pit out. The positioning was done to aid in the sale of more high priced seats. The unique positioning has led to a differnt strategy in closely contested finishes, as the race isn’ off of turn four, but is to be set up for the race through the tri-oval. Talladega also has an out-of-bounds line along the bottom of the race track which drivers must stay above or be penalized.
There tends to be two plots of strategy by drivers; either get out front and stay ahead of the big one or hold out near the back of the pack until there is one-hundred miles to go then start racing to the front. Both tactics have been successful; but more so the thought of staying out front.
Dale Earnhardt, Jr. has won this race five times including four straight from the Fall of 2001 through the Spring of 2003. Jeff Gordon has also won there five times, most recently sweeping both races last year. This recent success of the Hendrick team along with new teammate, Earnhardt, Jr could make it tough for anyone not sporting a Hendrick Chevy to pull off a win.
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